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		<title>By: khanseena</title>
		<link>http://crazyhorse.pkpolitics.com/2009/11/18/islamic-divorce-by-mail/#comment-558</link>
		<dc:creator>khanseena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@sandeela

To expect reconciliation would be cruel on A. S needs psychiatric evaluation and anger management classes.
Islam allows divorce and in this case in my humble opinion would be the right thing.

A should aggressively pursue child support and better herself with education and a job. Allah will open the doors and show her the correct way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sandeela</p>
<p>To expect reconciliation would be cruel on A. S needs psychiatric evaluation and anger management classes.<br />
Islam allows divorce and in this case in my humble opinion would be the right thing.</p>
<p>A should aggressively pursue child support and better herself with education and a job. Allah will open the doors and show her the correct way.</p>
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		<title>By: sandeela</title>
		<link>http://crazyhorse.pkpolitics.com/2009/11/18/islamic-divorce-by-mail/#comment-557</link>
		<dc:creator>sandeela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read all the comments posted by everyone. Few people appreciated my loyalty...and shared with us their point of view of the A-S story..... Isn&#039;t it!!!

As for A&#039;s character, I don&#039;t need anybody&#039;s comments. I know this girl and I trust my personal experience with her and I know for sure she is as chaste as the first ray of the sun! 

From humanity point of view let religion be aside.... it is our sole responsibility to sort out any dispute especially if it concerns people who are near and dear to us!!! Its not about who went wrong and who did what!!!! Its about  the family structure getting shattered.... Anger is not allowed in Islam for its destructive reasons... and troubles do arise in any sort of couples. Obviously breaking is the last option anyone could opt for!

The thing which we all are not concentrating is the emotional breakage of both the sides... no matter how cruel any body could be but in the end we all are humans...Those who are married or have ever been in a relationship can understand this point. I won&#039;t blame any legal system/both the parties or anyone else. It was our responsibility to have stopped such things from happening giving counseling to anyone who we have known undergoing such phase. 

I feel ashamed of myself as a member of this society for not being able to fulfill my duty. Now the max we could do is to look into our conscience for accountability and make the rest of the life for both A and S a bit peaceful and without making them a part of gossip. 

I would still request both S and A to go for reconciliation without listening to anyone. Disputes are always temporary. Wounds get cured only from where you get them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read all the comments posted by everyone. Few people appreciated my loyalty&#8230;and shared with us their point of view of the A-S story&#8230;.. Isn&#8217;t it!!!</p>
<p>As for A&#8217;s character, I don&#8217;t need anybody&#8217;s comments. I know this girl and I trust my personal experience with her and I know for sure she is as chaste as the first ray of the sun! </p>
<p>From humanity point of view let religion be aside&#8230;. it is our sole responsibility to sort out any dispute especially if it concerns people who are near and dear to us!!! Its not about who went wrong and who did what!!!! Its about  the family structure getting shattered&#8230;. Anger is not allowed in Islam for its destructive reasons&#8230; and troubles do arise in any sort of couples. Obviously breaking is the last option anyone could opt for!</p>
<p>The thing which we all are not concentrating is the emotional breakage of both the sides&#8230; no matter how cruel any body could be but in the end we all are humans&#8230;Those who are married or have ever been in a relationship can understand this point. I won&#8217;t blame any legal system/both the parties or anyone else. It was our responsibility to have stopped such things from happening giving counseling to anyone who we have known undergoing such phase. </p>
<p>I feel ashamed of myself as a member of this society for not being able to fulfill my duty. Now the max we could do is to look into our conscience for accountability and make the rest of the life for both A and S a bit peaceful and without making them a part of gossip. </p>
<p>I would still request both S and A to go for reconciliation without listening to anyone. Disputes are always temporary. Wounds get cured only from where you get them!</p>
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		<title>By: shimatoree</title>
		<link>http://crazyhorse.pkpolitics.com/2009/11/18/islamic-divorce-by-mail/#comment-549</link>
		<dc:creator>shimatoree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 02:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>khanseena

          This guy is running away as we write. 
Before doing that he has been on a lobbying campaign in Rochester, Minnesota and Sioux Falls, South Dakota - telling lies to the members of the Muslim community about his imagined &quot;innocence&quot; in this matter. 
          In this particular case the Muslim community is behaved like the community of Karbala 1400 year ago when they did not intervene and Imam Hussein was killed. I am very happy to hear that others have acted differently. So there is hope.
The matter is known to the state medical board in Minnesota and I think it will be known to any other state boards.

As far as child support and alimony is concerned - there is nothing and by the time the court rules, he would be in Pakistan. But if is ever planning to come back- he should know that he will have to pay for those things and then some.

          The legal system in the USA will play it&#039;s course to the full. The judges in this case are fully aware of the deceit and duplicity of this Shehzad Siddique and I do hope that full justice will be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>khanseena</p>
<p>          This guy is running away as we write.<br />
Before doing that he has been on a lobbying campaign in Rochester, Minnesota and Sioux Falls, South Dakota &#8211; telling lies to the members of the Muslim community about his imagined &#8220;innocence&#8221; in this matter.<br />
          In this particular case the Muslim community is behaved like the community of Karbala 1400 year ago when they did not intervene and Imam Hussein was killed. I am very happy to hear that others have acted differently. So there is hope.<br />
The matter is known to the state medical board in Minnesota and I think it will be known to any other state boards.</p>
<p>As far as child support and alimony is concerned &#8211; there is nothing and by the time the court rules, he would be in Pakistan. But if is ever planning to come back- he should know that he will have to pay for those things and then some.</p>
<p>          The legal system in the USA will play it&#8217;s course to the full. The judges in this case are fully aware of the deceit and duplicity of this Shehzad Siddique and I do hope that full justice will be done.</p>
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		<title>By: khanseena</title>
		<link>http://crazyhorse.pkpolitics.com/2009/11/18/islamic-divorce-by-mail/#comment-548</link>
		<dc:creator>khanseena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 01:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the court of law has ruled that this physician has abused his wife, the next step would be to notify the state medical board - they will hold an inquiry and suspend his license. 
His wife should make sure a court also establishes alimony and child support payments BEFORE he runs off to Pakistan.

There are similar stories of pakistani spousal abuse - however the Pakistani community in these cases has helped the victim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the court of law has ruled that this physician has abused his wife, the next step would be to notify the state medical board &#8211; they will hold an inquiry and suspend his license.<br />
His wife should make sure a court also establishes alimony and child support payments BEFORE he runs off to Pakistan.</p>
<p>There are similar stories of pakistani spousal abuse &#8211; however the Pakistani community in these cases has helped the victim.</p>
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		<title>By: khanseena</title>
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		<dc:creator>khanseena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 01:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shezad Siddique sounds like scum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shezad Siddique sounds like scum.</p>
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		<title>By: university of north dakota school of medicine</title>
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		<dc:creator>university of north dakota school of medicine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;university of north dakota school of medicine...&lt;/strong&gt;

I was searching for university of north dakota school of medicine&quot; and found this your page (Balloon Juice &quot; Blog Archive &quot; More On Stem Cells). Not what i actually searched, but your post looked interesting....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>university of north dakota school of medicine&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I was searching for university of north dakota school of medicine&#8221; and found this your page (Balloon Juice &#8221; Blog Archive &#8221; More On Stem Cells). Not what i actually searched, but your post looked interesting&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: silkccut</title>
		<link>http://crazyhorse.pkpolitics.com/2009/11/18/islamic-divorce-by-mail/#comment-543</link>
		<dc:creator>silkccut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Alraji

Nothing in Islam is divine but the divinity of Allah. Creating divinity is a Greko-Roman and christian tradition. This is why Prophet Muhammad (saw)was sent to us; i.e, to abolish divinity of Christ and many other gods and goddesses and to establish the divinity of Allah.

This being said, just a friendly advice, please back your arguments with references. Arguments without references are like curry without spices. 

For instance, you quoted, &quot;even abu hanifa (d 150) did not believe in its divine nature. we find very clearly in hundreds of 3rd, 4th and 5th islamic century books how he ridiculed ahadith.&quot; Here you need to give a reference of the text that quoted such an incidence. Without a reference it is just a here say. 

Just a friend!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Alraji</p>
<p>Nothing in Islam is divine but the divinity of Allah. Creating divinity is a Greko-Roman and christian tradition. This is why Prophet Muhammad (saw)was sent to us; i.e, to abolish divinity of Christ and many other gods and goddesses and to establish the divinity of Allah.</p>
<p>This being said, just a friendly advice, please back your arguments with references. Arguments without references are like curry without spices. </p>
<p>For instance, you quoted, &#8220;even abu hanifa (d 150) did not believe in its divine nature. we find very clearly in hundreds of 3rd, 4th and 5th islamic century books how he ridiculed ahadith.&#8221; Here you need to give a reference of the text that quoted such an incidence. Without a reference it is just a here say. </p>
<p>Just a friend!</p>
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		<title>By: alraji</title>
		<link>http://crazyhorse.pkpolitics.com/2009/11/18/islamic-divorce-by-mail/#comment-542</link>
		<dc:creator>alraji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we need to know first of all that &#039;&#039;sharia&#039;&#039; is NOT a divine law. i challenge all to prove it if they can. its just an arab customary law which got its &#039;&#039;divine&#039;&#039; nature 150 years after the death of the prophet by some jurists in order to establish their own authority. even abu hanifa (d 150) did not believe in its divine nature. we find very clearly in hundreds of 3rd, 4th and 5th islamic century books how he ridiculed ahadith. to cut it short, if its not a divine law, it needs to be abolished in this civilized world. i dont think we can afford the burden of this stone age law any more...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we need to know first of all that &#8216;&#8217;sharia&#8221; is NOT a divine law. i challenge all to prove it if they can. its just an arab customary law which got its &#8221;divine&#8221; nature 150 years after the death of the prophet by some jurists in order to establish their own authority. even abu hanifa (d 150) did not believe in its divine nature. we find very clearly in hundreds of 3rd, 4th and 5th islamic century books how he ridiculed ahadith. to cut it short, if its not a divine law, it needs to be abolished in this civilized world. i dont think we can afford the burden of this stone age law any more&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: shimatoree</title>
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		<dc:creator>shimatoree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>runaway

          the best thing to do is to talk with the LEGAL Aid people in your state . They are usually very helpful.

          Another resource you might use is help from the ACLU and women&#039;s organisations. Go to Islamic Divorce on google and you can get tons of information.</description>
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<p>          the best thing to do is to talk with the LEGAL Aid people in your state . They are usually very helpful.</p>
<p>          Another resource you might use is help from the ACLU and women&#8217;s organisations. Go to Islamic Divorce on google and you can get tons of information.</p>
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		<title>By: runaway</title>
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		<dc:creator>runaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am related to another case of Divorce by mail in NJ.

The divorce case is in court and there is a six month child involved.

Anyone know of any good lawyer resources which can help out and not charge a ton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am related to another case of Divorce by mail in NJ.</p>
<p>The divorce case is in court and there is a six month child involved.</p>
<p>Anyone know of any good lawyer resources which can help out and not charge a ton.</p>
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